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- From: roger.strandberg@sundsvall.mail.telia.com (Roger strandberg)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: Java on Amiga with Linux???
- Date: 20 Apr 1996 08:47:42 GMT
- Organization: Telia Internet Services
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-
- >Is going with Linux on my A4000 the best route? Is the Amiga version of
- >Linux
- >comparable to Linux on PCs? Any ideas how far along either the Java or
- >AmigaDos
-
- NOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
-
- The best way is NETBSD1.1.
-
- SUN
- MAC
- AMIGA
- IBM
- SPARC
- ATARI
- VAX???? (I think I Have run it on a VAX/????? hmmm)
-
- bla bla bla bla
-
- It can also run X11R6 and have support for CYBERVISION 64
- ethernet,arcnet, cdroms,,,,,,,,
-
- AND THE BEST!!! Its developed at the "same" time for all platforms.
- And that is not the case whit LINUX.... :(
-
- ++++++++++++++++ There are ca 150Mb of comp. code ready to run on
- amiga... Plus you get FULL GCC, C,C++,Fortran ........
-
- But not mislead you, here comes som info from INSTALL:
-
- Roger Strandberg /Sysop On LinksBBS/LinksNet
-
- :-)
-
- INSTALLATION NOTES for NetBSD/amiga 1.1
-
-
-
- Be sure to read _ALL_ of this document before you try to install
- NetBSD/amiga.
-
-
-
- What is NetBSD?
- ---- -- ------
-
- NetBSD is a Berkeley Networking Release 2 (Net/2) and 4.4BSD-Lite
- -derived Operating System. It is a fully functional UN*X-like system
- which runs on many architectures and is being ported to more. NetBSD,
- as the name implies, is a creation of the members of the network community
- and without the net it's likely that this release wouldn't have come
- about.
-
- NetBSD 1.1 is a evolutionary release which contains over a year of
- changes to the kernel, user-level utilities, and documentation.
-
- Continuing the multi-platform tradition, NetBSD has added ports to
- atari and mvme68k based machines. Kernel interfaces have continued to
- be refined, and now several subsystems and device drivers are shared
- among the different ports. You can look for this trend to continue.
-
- NetBSD 1.1 has significantly enhanced the binary emulation subsystem
- (which includes iBCS2, Linux, OSF/1, SunOS, SVR4, Solaris and Ultrix
- compatibility) and several kernel subsystems have been generalized
- to support this more readily. The binary emulation strategy is
- aimed at making the emulation as accurate as possible.
-
- NetBSD 1.1 is also the first release to see machine-independent disk
- striping. The concatenated disk driver (ccd), which was previously
- supported only by the hp300 port, has been vastly improved. Many
- bugs were fixed, and explicit references to device-dependent routines
- removed and replaced by calls to the generic "vnode operation"
- routines. In addition, several features were added, including partition
- support, dynamic configuration and unconfiguration via a user space system
- utility program, and virtually unlimited number of component devices.
-
- Many new user programs have been added in NetBSD 1.1, as well,
- bringing it closer to our goal of supplying a complete UN*X-like
- environment.
-
-
-
- This is the second public release of NetBSD for the Amiga line of
- computers. Several additional graphics and network boards are now
- supported. Some of the SCSI drivers have been enhanced and (hopefully)
- improved.
-
-
-
- The Future of NetBSD:
- --- ------ -- ------
-
- The NetBSD Foundation was recently incorporated as a non-profit
- organization. It's purpose is to encourage, foster and promote the
- free exchange of computer software, namely the NetBSD Operating
- System. The foundation will allow for many things to be handled more
- smoothly than could be done with our previous informal organization.
- In particular, it provides the framework to deal with other parties
- that wish to become involved in the NetBSD Project. (IN WHAT WAY? Money,
- donations, etc)
-
- We believe that the NetBSD Foundation will help improve the quality
- of NetBSD by:
-
- * providing better organization to keep track of development
- efforts, including co-ordination with groups working in
- related fields.
-
- * providing a framework to receive donations of goods and
- services and to own the resources necessary to run the
- NetBSD Project.
-
- * providing a better position from which to undertake
- promotional activities.
-
- * periodically organizing workshops for developers and other
- interested people to discuss ongoing work.
-
- We hope to have regular releases of the full binary and source trees,
- but these are difficult to coordinate, especially with all of the
- architectures which we now support! We hope to support even _more_
- hardware in the future, and have a rather large number of other ideas
- about what can be done to improve NetBSD. We intend to continue our
- current practice of making the NetBSD-current development source
- available on a daily or nearly-daily basis.
-
- We intend to integrate free, positive changes from whatever sources
- will provide them, providing that they are well thought-out and
- increase the usability of the system.
-
- Above all, we hope to create a stable and accessible system, and to be
- responsive to the needs and desires of NetBSD users, because it is for
- and because of them that NetBSD exists.
-
-
- Sources of NetBSD:
- ------- -- ------
-
- Host name Services Provided
- ---- ---- -------- --------
- ftp.iastate.edu Anonymous FTP, AFS
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/netbsd
- AFS path: /afs/iastate.edu/public/ftp/pub/netbsd
-
- ftp.eecs.umich.edu Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: BSD/NetBSD
-
- gatekeeper.dec.com Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/BSD/NetBSD
-
- wipux2.wifo.uni-mannheim.de Anonymous FTP, SUP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD
- SUP: get the file pub/misc/sup/supfile.example via
- anonymous FTP and read it as an example.
-
- ftp.demon.co.uk Anonymous FTP, possibly SUP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/BSD/NetBSD
- SUP: contact peter@demon.net for SUP server status/information
-
- ftp.uni-regensburg.de Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD
-
- ftp.unit.no Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD
-
- ftp.stacken.kth.se Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/OS/NetBSD
-
- flick.lerc.nasa.gov Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD
-
- coombs.anu.edu.au Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD
-
- ftp.funet.fi Anonymous FTP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/unix/NetBSD
-
- ftp.netbsd.org Anonymous FTP, SUP
-
- Anon-FTP path: pub/NetBSD
- SUP: get the file pub/sup/README.sup via anonymous FTP from
- ftp.netbsd.org, and read it for instructions.
-
- If you wish to become a distribution site for NetBSD, contact
- mirrors@netbsd.org.
-
-
-
- NetBSD System Requirements and Supported Devices:
- ------ ------ ------------ --- --------- -------
-
- NetBSD/amiga 1.1 runs on any amiga that has a 68020 or better CPU
- with some form of FPU and MMU. The minimal configuration requires
- 4M of RAM and about 65M of disk space. To install the entire system
- requires much more disk space, and to run X or compile the system,
- more RAM is recommended. (4M of RAM will actually allow you to
- compile, however it won't be speedy. X really isn't usable on a
- 4M system)
-
- Here is a table of recommended HD partition sizes for a full install:
- partition: advise, with X, needed, with X
- root (/) 15M 15M 10M 10M
- user (/usr) 65M 100M 45M 80M
- swap ----- 2M for every M ram -----
- local (/local) up to you
-
-
- As you may note the recommended size of /usr is 20M greater than
- needed. This is to leave room for a kernel source and compile tree
- as you will probably want to compile your own kernel. (GENERIC is
- large and bulky to accommodate all people).
-
- If you only have 4M of fast memory, you should make your swap partition
- larger, as your system will be doing much more swapping.
-
- Supported devices include:
- A4000/A1200 IDE controller.
- SCSI host adapters:
- 33c93 based boards: A2091, A3000 and GVP series II.
- 53c80 based boards: 12 Gauge, IVS and Wordsync/Bytesync.
- 53c710 based boards: A4091, Magnum, Warp Engine and Zeus.
- FAS216 based boards: FastLane Z3, Blizzard.
- Video controllers:
- ECS, AGA and A2024 built in on various amigas.
- Retina Z2 and Retina Z3.
- Picasso II.
- GVP Spectrum.
- Piccalo.
- A2410.
- Cybervision 64.
- Ethernet controllers:
- A2065 Ethernet
- Hydra Ethernet
- ASDG Ethernet
- A4066 Ethernet
- Ariadne Ethernet
- Quicknet Ethernet
- Arcnet controllers:
- A2060 Arcnet
- Tape drives:
- Most SCSI tape drives, including
- Archive Viper, Cipher SCSI-2 ST150.
- CD-ROM drives:
- Most SCSI CD-ROM drives
- Serial cards:
- MultiFaceCard II and III
- A2232
- Amiga floppy drives.
- Amiga parallel port.
- Amiga serial port.
- Amiga mouse.
-
- If its not on this list, there is no support for it in this release.
-
-